There are only two ways of doing politics now: Mr. Williams's way, or no way at all.
Rex Murphy
Rex Murphy's latest column in the Globe and Mail my raise a few eyebrows back home with the crowd in Placenta.
He makes a strong pitch for an issue which has dominated my thinking for nearly 2o years and to which all the kings horses and all the kings men have not been able to, address the "accelerating extinction of Newfoundland's quintessential outport heritage."
He speaks to the "unhealthy imbalance in the province. There are 48 seats in the House of Assembly, and Mr. Williams owns 44 of them." and speaks to the powerful grip that the current premier has on politics and the economy in the province.
I agree it is an unhealthy situation. The opposition has to earn its stripes as well. Murphy praises the contribution of Loyola Hearn who he says is at least as honorable a Newfoundlander as Williams. It is here that I disagree, read my three previous posts and talk to me about honor. Mr. Hearn misled the province in the last election. Yes a majority of Newfoundlanders did not buy into the promises, but still they were broken.
Mr. Williams is right to question the loyality of Hearn, Doyle and Manning.
He elected to stand with Harper not the province as Bill Casey did. I see no honor in that.
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Mr. Hearn misled the province in the last election. Yes a majority of Newfoundlanders did not buy into the promises, but still they were broken.
Danny Williams broke promises on the Labrador Metis, on Labrador benefitting from its own hydro resource, on open and accountable government, and so on.
I guess you would agree, then, that Danny Williams is a traitor to his own province and people.
Right?
Right?
I suppose that depends where you sit Wally. If I was a Metis, I might feel that way.
I suppose that depends where you sit Wally. If I was a Metis, I might feel that way.
I suppose that depends where you sit Wally. If I was a Metis, I might feel that way.
Why, because if you're not, then the promise wasn't made to you, so Dear Leader can break it with impunity?
Is it not a broken promise just because it wasn't made to you?
The openness and accountability promise was made to everyone, including you. How do you feel about that?
Again: Danny has a well-documented record of breaking promises. Does that not make him a "traitor"? If not, why not?
Aren't you undercutting Danny's ABC campaign?
All those promises Harper made, just to Newfoundland and Labrador.
Broken.
For which Danny wants people across the country to vote ABC.
Nice last-minute conversion. I would have told him to vote so years ago.
But, can't someone in Manitoba, using your same logic, say, "I might feel the same way... but I'm from Manitoba."
Wally:
I think you should consider working for the Conservative Campaign.
I think William's is saying look you can not trust Harper. Here is what he promised us and this is what he delivered. There are plenty of other examples as well.
The issue in this campaign for me is the Conservatives not Williams. That was last fall
I think you should consider working for the Conservative Campaign.
You are the one who is undermining the logic of the ABC campaign, not me.
I think William's is saying look you can not trust Harper. Here is what he promised us and this is what he delivered. There are plenty of other examples as well.
That's great, and I'm glad that you are finding reasons not to support Harper. I had already had plenty.
But I'll ask again: if breaking promises is so bad... why do you continue to support Danny Williams?
And if it doesn't matter to you that Danny broke his promises to Labrador... why should it matter to someone in New Brunswick that Harper broke promises to another province?
You can't have it both ways.
If you expect Harper's broken promises to NL to be a federal election issue, you also have to condemn Danny's record of broken promises to Labrador.
The issue in this campaign for me is the Conservatives not Williams. That was last fall
The issue WASN'T Williams... but he is rapidly making himself an issue.
Wally:
"That's great, and I'm glad that you are finding reasons not to support Harper"
I have never and never will support Harper
....http://www.polemicandparadox.com/2008/09/in-defense-of-not-voting-fro-crag.html
I challenged Williams on breaking a number of promises - Labrador Ferry, Labrador Tunnel, Metis, not using the legislature to end a public sector strike and others.
Of course he has been back to the electorate since breaking them and the voters seemed not to hold it against him.
The issue in the ABC are legitimate. The Prime Minister of the country made a commitment to something that many of us at the time said was not something that other parties were able to commit to. People on the Avalon at least did not heed warnings from people like me who did no support or vote for Harper. In the end he did what I expected he would do, He broke his promise. He even went further and used the budget process to change the Atlantic Accord. Williams or no Williams, I am ABC.
The inter provincial issues are another thing all together.
Whats your problem with a campaign that helps get less Conservatives elected Wally?
The problem with the Wallyma Initiative is that he is too busy in the hatch pushing the anti danny button to care about anything else
I challenged Williams on breaking a number of promises - Labrador Ferry, Labrador Tunnel
I'll give Danny his due - I can't remember him breaking a Labrador tunnel promise. (He did break his promise to release the report within 30 days, though.)
Metis
When did you take Danny to task on that?
Of course he has been back to the electorate since breaking them and the voters seemed not to hold it against him.
OK, so... if at the end of the federal election there's little or no change in the seats, does that mean you give in?
Whats your problem with a campaign that helps get less Conservatives elected Wally?
Nothing, as long as it's above board, and — this is the important part — actually helps get "less" Conservatives elected. And I don't need to take any lessons from you, of all people, on how to do that.
Isn't this where you're supposed to insert Liz's talking point about not standing with NL or something like that? Come on, use the royal We!
The problem with the Wallyma Initiative is that he is too busy in the hatch pushing the anti danny button to care about anything else
Someone has to push it.
Wally:
There you go with the Liz stuff again. Seriously Wally how can you justify alienating the support (as short term as it is) of the PC organization in this campaign with your constant attacks on Danny Williams.
I imagine it has to to be hard enough for some of these tories to be doing what they are doing let a lone read crap from a liberal staffer that runs them down daily.
Seriously,whats not above board? As a liberal staffer you have never been asked or tasked with doing things that have been requested from the leaders office.
As I have said, and continue to say I have always been ABC.
Harper deserves to lose all three seats in this province and as a staffer perhaps you should not be so antagonistic, at least for the duration of the campaign.
Of course you always could take a leave from the cozy Ottawa scene and help a liberal candidate like Wally Noel get elected.
Of course you always could take a leave from the cozy Ottawa scene and help a liberal candidate like Wally Noel get elected.
Who are you supporting in St. John's East, again?
Wally:
I can support whom ever I want. However if I were so concerned about Danny Williams and his ABC and was a Liberal staffer I might want to be on the ground here working on a campaign.
To work on the campaign here would demand coming out of the hatch on the island of AntiDannystan. And as he said.. "someone has to push it"...keep pushing that button..Don't ask why..keep pushing that button..lol
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